Yet another Schnauzer newbie looking for help

Grooming is an important part of looking after your Schnauzer. Regular grooming will help keep your Schnauzer healthy and comfortable and you will spot potential problems early. Whether you decide to clip or strip your Schnauzer, help is on hand. Schnauzers are generally a non-shedding breed and will require a fair amount of grooming to get rid of dead hair.
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absousa
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Yet another Schnauzer newbie looking for help

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Hi everyone, I got into the wonderful Schnauzer adventure close to 3 months ago and everything has been going as good as it can but now I'm getting some grooming/fur doubts.

I had never had contact with a non trimmed Schnauzer before I got my mini, Eddie. He is 5 months now, healthy and active little pup, the thing is altho I've read a few posts I would like to keep him as "natural" as possible (i know that most are avid defenders of stripping) and I present myself and Eddie to the "council" for some guidance :D

I've been using a flea comb to brush him everyday (I have a bristle and pin combs but they barely seem to do anything) but for a non shedding breed I seem to get a lot of fur when multiple references say they barely shed :-\
Not sure if it's due to his age and not having an adult coat yet or if the comb I'm using is too narrow and breaks too much hair, or if it's just natural.

I don't have any groomers nearby besides the ones that shave the dogs like sheep and call that a good cut, so I'm kind of on my own.
I just want to be sure that I'm not damaging his coat beyond repair.

Anyway, enough bla bla, I'll leave some pics of Eddie and wait for your feedback :)

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PS: The last pic is the comb I use daily and the amount of fur I get from brushing him a couple of times along the back.

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Hi and welcome. Eddie looks as though he's got a lovely wire coat perfect for stripping. I'd say the comb you've got is a bit fine, the hairs in it look like wire rather than undercoat so I think the comb is pulling them out so not shedding.
Read through this thread about Kats progress with Ozzy. Eddie is older but the principles are the same. You will probably find the cost easy to pull as it's quite long so nearly blown so don't get carried away pulling too much at any one time.
viewtopic.php?p=305586#p305586

I'd start combing his beard down as it should have nearly enough weight to stay down now. You'll then be able to see where you need to trim the "stop" the bit between his eyes better.

Are you going to shave his cheeks and chest or are they staying natural?
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Thanks for the reply!

Yea, I'm not sure about going full stripping mode just yet, for the moment I have the time for it but once I start working full time it will be a bit harder to do it correctly. I'm not looking for a perfect look, I just want the little guy to be happy and with a healthy coat (to be fair I like how he looks right now).

I've read some stuff about the mars coat king for some easy semi-stripping, but I'm afraid I'll groom him bald with a tool like that eheh.
The ideal would be a daily brush/tool that keeps him in decent shape but doesn't require the amount of time correct stripping does, something just to remove the dead hair.

Started to comb his beard down as you said, lets see how it goes. About the cheeks I'm not sure what I'll go for, but probably not going to shave it unless it get a bit too messy.

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Hi Miguel, take a look at this, better than a coat king, really easy to keep smart with one of these if you aren't bothered about some of the hair being cut.,
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Andis-65760-Pe ... B009H525I4
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Oscar 12345 wrote:
23 Nov 2020, 10:25
Hi Miguel, take a look at this, better than a coat king, really easy to keep smart with one of these if you aren't bothered about some of the hair being cut.,
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Andis-65760-Pe ... B009H525I4
Thanks, I decided to go ahead and order a similar tool to the coat king (cheaper tho) and a pair of stripping knives to try around a bit, in the worst case scenario I mess up and Eddie will be a patchy dog for some time :D

I know that once a coat is clipped for a while it gets hard to revert to wire coat again, is that the same the other way around? If I strip him for a while can I get the fluffy undercoat back or is it gone for good?
By stripping I don't mean the full bald one, just the undercoat removal (not sure if i'm using the correct terms).

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No, no problem other way round, you will still get undercoat once you leave it.,
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No, no problem other way round, you will still get undercoat once you leave it.,
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I know that once a coat is clipped for a while it gets hard to revert to wire coat again, is that the same the other way around? If I strip him for a while can I get the fluffy undercoat back or is it gone for good?
By stripping I don't mean the full bald one, just the undercoat removal (not sure if i'm using the correct terms).
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I have met a couple of dogs who are clipped but you can still feel bits of prickly wire coat. I think it would all depend on if the dog had a good wire coat in the first place if you could get it back after clipping. One or two clips you would as the wire hair has around 12 week growing cycle. The undercoat continues to grow when you strip and has to be removed to maintain the wire coat. Every hair follicle produces one wire hair and up to 12 undercoat hairs which is why the undercoat needs removing otherwise it crowds out the wire hair.

Full bald one is called stage stripping
The stripping where you pull out some coat weekly, the one we all do, is called rolling the coat
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