Suprelorin - Otto's experience

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Re: Suprelorin - Otto's experience

Post by Oscar 12345 » 15 Jul 2019, 16:14

Thanks Alison, it is and has been challenging that's for sure. :D
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Re: Suprelorin - Otto's experience

Post by Schnauzer Sam » 30 Sep 2019, 16:43

How are things now with Otto, Julie?

I met a man over the weekend who has a JRT. He told me his dog had just had an implant and was surprised when I spoke about Suprelorin. This forum can certainly educate :)
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Re: Suprelorin - Otto's experience

Post by Oscar 12345 » 01 Oct 2019, 15:58

Sam, I agree it is amazing what we can learn from users of these forums

It has been over 6 months now with the implant. No signs of the implant wearing off physically (testicle size being a key determinant). I am so pleased that we tried it out rather than going for permanent castration. The pros and cons are exactly the same as with permanent castration. I have a more nervy/sensitive/protective dog as his reactivity towards other dogs is fear related and on balance even though the amount of training we have done and we have both needed a lot of training (me more than Otto), has probably levelled it out I would say that it has made it worse. If you cannot or are not prepared to do the time consuming and sometimes personally exhausting training, being committed to alter pretty much everything about the way you walk your dog, then it would be a lot worse and permanent castration would have been a big mistake for us and even the implant would have been a big mistake in those circumstances. On the plus side, the focus is so much better along with recall etc. which has meant that the training works and sticks. Some of the not so desirable male behaviours have been reduced or eliminated so this is a plus as things like licking pee are a bit gross really. With the increased sensitivity comes a very loving dog who loves fuss and attention and puts you at the centre of his world. The reactivity is being managed, in a nutshell, Otto is scared of dogs and he is in the growl and lunge rather than flee camp. He does have some doggy pals (pal is too strong a word really but defined as a dog that he will not react badly to) but strange dogs are very frightening to him and we have had a conversation and I have told him that he doesn't have to meet any dogs if he doesn't want to ;) Been following some brilliant training and read some fantastic books, shelves are full of them now and now it is a matter of time and consistency. :D I am really looking forward to the implant wearing off now and hoping that with the return of some testosterone he will either remain as he is which is manageable now that I know him so well or he becomes a little more confident and relaxes around strange dogs a little more. Sorry rather a long post to answer your question, but I read so many posts about very reactive schnauzers that have been permanently castrated and the owners in real despair as to how to handle it or worse posts from people considering castration not knowing that things will probably get a lot worse. I do think in the future that I will probably look back at the training and learning here and think wow, I really did enjoy that. :-B :)
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Re: Suprelorin - Otto's experience

Post by Schnauzer Sam » 01 Oct 2019, 17:00

Thanks for the update. It'll be interesting to hear how he progresses when the implant wears off.
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Re: Suprelorin - Otto's experience

Post by zeta1454 » 02 Oct 2019, 07:08

It has been really interesting following this thread. Thank you for sharing Otto's experience :)
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Re: Suprelorin - Otto's experience

Post by Oscar 12345 » 28 Oct 2019, 17:23

Moving into the 8th month of the 6 month implant. Starting to see subtle signs that testosterone is coming back. Had to be licking pee didn't it along with improved sniffing techniques and less body shaking (calming signals).... I wonder if I can correct the licking pee now that it has just started (again) hmmm. Just wanted to log the first signs.
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