hey all!
i'm thinking of getting a mini schnauzer so i'm looking at breeders...this is my first time owning a dog by myself so forgive my ignorance! i've read various sites about avoiding puppy mills etc because that's very important to me but the information is a bit difficult to sort through. i was wondering if you would mind just looking at this breeder's page and telling me if there are any red flags i should know about, or if anyone here has heard of this breeder? I noticed she has a fair number of dogs and she has litters quite often but i didn't know if it was unusually so and she seems nice. i of course would visit her and ask her a bunch of questions but i'm talking like a first glance type of thing.
(Website links removed - I am sorry, but we don't allow the discussion on breeders directly in the public forum. It causes unnecessary arguments and the breeders often are not here to counter any arguments. There are many resources on the forum relating to identifying a good breeder - Ed)
thank you so much in advance!
Can someone check this out for me?
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silverstrike
- Posts: 1
- Joined: 07 Apr 2017, 05:05
- First Name: Baully
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Mkini
- Puppy
- Posts: 5
- Joined: 17 Apr 2016, 22:36
- First Name: Monica
- Dog #1: Poppy
- is a: P/S Mini Bitch
- Born: 0- 0-2011
- Dog #2: Max
- is a: P/S Mini Dog
- Born: 0- 0-2012
- Location: Northamptonshire
Re: Can someone check this out for me?
Hi,
When we got Poppy and a year later Max we saw them with their mum; suckling. We were happy that the mum was a well looked after and happy family pet and that she'd had one 1 litter. Poppy was her 3rd, max her 4th and last- this is a decision the breeders make to not over breed on order to safeguard the health if the pups and give mum a life as oppose to being a breeding machine. We still see the breeder regularly and know this os all 100% true.
She didn't have a website, she was registered as an assured breeder with the kennel club; there is a very big difference between being registered as a breeder and an assured breeder.
There's a lot of controversy surrounding the kennel Club, so you need to make your choices.
This is what we found:
Be wary if you can't see mum and the pups suckling; be wary if there's too many dogs/pups; a good breeder dedicates a lot of time to the needs and health of the pups and mum; they can't have too many at once. Never bring a dog home without at least one prior visit. We visited twice and were asked a lot of questions; if the breeder is all too happy to just hand over the pup be wary.
Be prepared to walk away if when you visit you don't like what you see; if you have children don't take them with you on the 1st visit or you'll come back with the pup regardless. Pups are hypnotising
Good luck and keep us posted.
M
When we got Poppy and a year later Max we saw them with their mum; suckling. We were happy that the mum was a well looked after and happy family pet and that she'd had one 1 litter. Poppy was her 3rd, max her 4th and last- this is a decision the breeders make to not over breed on order to safeguard the health if the pups and give mum a life as oppose to being a breeding machine. We still see the breeder regularly and know this os all 100% true.
She didn't have a website, she was registered as an assured breeder with the kennel club; there is a very big difference between being registered as a breeder and an assured breeder.
There's a lot of controversy surrounding the kennel Club, so you need to make your choices.
This is what we found:
Be wary if you can't see mum and the pups suckling; be wary if there's too many dogs/pups; a good breeder dedicates a lot of time to the needs and health of the pups and mum; they can't have too many at once. Never bring a dog home without at least one prior visit. We visited twice and were asked a lot of questions; if the breeder is all too happy to just hand over the pup be wary.
Be prepared to walk away if when you visit you don't like what you see; if you have children don't take them with you on the 1st visit or you'll come back with the pup regardless. Pups are hypnotising
Good luck and keep us posted.
M
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Mkini
- Puppy
- Posts: 5
- Joined: 17 Apr 2016, 22:36
- First Name: Monica
- Dog #1: Poppy
- is a: P/S Mini Bitch
- Born: 0- 0-2011
- Dog #2: Max
- is a: P/S Mini Dog
- Born: 0- 0-2012
- Location: Northamptonshire
Re: Can someone check this out for me?
In addition; please check this out:
Anything short of the below; in our opinion, just isn't good enough. A dog is obviously a living being and a life long commitment. Anyone that doesn't treat it as such should not embark in this wonderful journey of love and poop clearing.
Assured Breeders must:
Ensure that all breeding stock is Kennel Club registered
Hand over the dog's registration certificate at time of sale if available, or forward it to the new owner as soon as possible
Explain any endorsements that might pertain and obtain written and signed confirmation from the new owner, at or before the date on which the dog is physically transferred, that the new owner is aware of the endorsement(s), regardless of whether or not the endorsed registration certificate is available
Follow Kennel Club policy regarding maximum age and number/frequency of litters
Permanently identify breeding stock by DNA profile, microchip, or tattoo
Make use of health screening schemes, relevant to their breed, on all breeding stock. These schemes include DNA testing, hip dysplasia, elbow dysplasia and inherited eye conditions
Socialise the puppies and provide written advice, in the Puppy Sales Wallet, on continuation of socialisation, exercise and future training
Provide written advice, in the scheme Puppy Sales Wallet, on feeding and worming programmes
Provide a written record, in the Puppy Sales Wallet, on the immunisation measures taken
Provide reasonable post-sales telephone advice
Inform buyers of the requirements and the recommendations that apply to Kennel Club Assured Breeders as well as the existence of the complaints procedure
Draw up a contract of sale for each puppy and provide a copy in the Puppy Sales Wallet
Provide a list of breed specific traits and tendencies or any further breed specific advice or information that may enhance the puppy buyers understanding of the breed they are buying
Anything short of the below; in our opinion, just isn't good enough. A dog is obviously a living being and a life long commitment. Anyone that doesn't treat it as such should not embark in this wonderful journey of love and poop clearing.
Assured Breeders must:
Ensure that all breeding stock is Kennel Club registered
Hand over the dog's registration certificate at time of sale if available, or forward it to the new owner as soon as possible
Explain any endorsements that might pertain and obtain written and signed confirmation from the new owner, at or before the date on which the dog is physically transferred, that the new owner is aware of the endorsement(s), regardless of whether or not the endorsed registration certificate is available
Follow Kennel Club policy regarding maximum age and number/frequency of litters
Permanently identify breeding stock by DNA profile, microchip, or tattoo
Make use of health screening schemes, relevant to their breed, on all breeding stock. These schemes include DNA testing, hip dysplasia, elbow dysplasia and inherited eye conditions
Socialise the puppies and provide written advice, in the Puppy Sales Wallet, on continuation of socialisation, exercise and future training
Provide written advice, in the scheme Puppy Sales Wallet, on feeding and worming programmes
Provide a written record, in the Puppy Sales Wallet, on the immunisation measures taken
Provide reasonable post-sales telephone advice
Inform buyers of the requirements and the recommendations that apply to Kennel Club Assured Breeders as well as the existence of the complaints procedure
Draw up a contract of sale for each puppy and provide a copy in the Puppy Sales Wallet
Provide a list of breed specific traits and tendencies or any further breed specific advice or information that may enhance the puppy buyers understanding of the breed they are buying