Silver and Black

Jools · Post by **Jools** » 04 Feb 2008, 21:48

keep it simple put a black and silver to a black and silver and you get black and silver :idea:

just an educated guess :!:

toffsmum · Post by **toffsmum** » 04 Feb 2008, 22:44

Jools · Post by **Jools** » 05 Feb 2008, 09:43

thats easy to explane:

both sire and dam are carrying the black and silver gene as well has their own!

toffsmum · Post by **toffsmum** » 05 Feb 2008, 13:19

Chris · Post by **Chris** » 11 Feb 2008, 21:33

toffsmum wrote:Well yes black and silver to black and silver is the best way to produced black and silver only, but does not explain the mixed litters of black and silver, black and p/s that is produced from a black and p/s mating.

Surely it depend on the genes carried not just in the parents, but also grandparents etc etc.
Am I right in Europe they never mix the colour, also they show the colours separatley.

In american they have alsorts of mixed up colour!!!!!!!!

Jools · Post by **Jools** » 12 Feb 2008, 09:11

toffsmum wrote:It that not what I said earlier? Maybe its my spelling.

no you are right..........

note to Jools :

must pay more attention in class

Chris · Post by **Chris** » 12 Feb 2008, 18:46

Hi,

Didn't know black and silver giants exsisted - Wow

Have only ever seen Black and S/P, where has the B/S gene come from?
If it's in giants surely it's in standards as well??

The ad has now gone, are there any pictures of B/S gaints in this country?

Would love to see adult pictures

BFG · Post by **BFG** » 12 Feb 2008, 20:31

http://www.schnauzerland.net/AvailableGiants.html

I have just found this American site.

snazy · Post by **snazy** » 12 Feb 2008, 20:32

Chris, have a look at the link I put up on the last page.

Also

http://www.giantschnauzer.org/Volition/ ... llery.html

where you can see a fawn coloured giant. This was from 2 blacks, the whole litter was fawn. They repeated the mating but never bred on from them or the parents again.

PrimaVista · Post by **PrimaVista** » 12 Feb 2008, 21:50

snazy wrote:They repeated the mating but never bred on from them or the parents again.

Thank goodness. They followed the mantra that we leave the breed enhanced from how we found it, unless we're going to go down the reprehensible road of designer doggies. The "standard" is there for a reason.

wazzockmum · Post by **wazzockmum** » 13 Feb 2008, 09:15

Some really interesting pictures here! The fawn one looks like a wheaten terrier to me.

Love the Black and silver Giant!

Just back from Switzerland - there was a GS police dog and 2 others in the village - quite light boned and all with tails - so lovely to see them working happily.

Chris · Post by **Chris** » 14 Feb 2008, 15:39

Thank Snazy,

Couldn't open first link.

They look lovely, but how have they achieved these colours?

If both Mini's and Gaint's have come from Standards, surley standards must carry these colours????

Or is it was they used to from the standard to create Mini's and Giants??

snazy · Post by **snazy** » 14 Feb 2008, 17:18

I did once hear someone say that there have occasionally been b/s standards born. But then the giants and minis have been mixed with other breeds to produce them and the b/s is just a slightly altered black and tan which is a common colouration in a lot of germanic breeds, among others.